sensible, safe sex, in my opinion, should be engaged in.
because, as you get older and are ready to settle down, you will look at your potential sole mate, not for sexual reasons, but for what they have to offer mentally and if they are compatible.
when religion restricts this, and yuo must marry to have sex, i believe that you doom a marriage at the outset, because these young folks marry out of lust, only to have the rose colored blinders pulled off later, and regret the entire arrangement... .
Not determining sexual compatibility before marrying is a HUGE roll of the dice IMO.
My JW wife and I have agreed many times that we would have rather lived together for a good couple years before getting married. And we dated for 2 years! Along time in Dub land.
i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.
let me start by offering three different options:.
a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.
I believe the bible is REAL!
I have one. It's printed on paper, I can touch it and pick it up. When I pick it up and open it...
There's nothing inside but bullshit.
i don't know of any do you.
i would think it a major leap in logic to not concider this first before expounding on it prophetically, why go thru the bother if we are missing this important link..
Easy. How do we know its a prophecy? Because we're the faithful slave! How do we know we're the faithful slave? Because it was prophesied!
Circular reasoning at its very best. Beyond that, I've never seen a good explanation.
i don't know of any do you.
i would think it a major leap in logic to not concider this first before expounding on it prophetically, why go thru the bother if we are missing this important link..
Easy. How do we know its a prophecy? Because we're the faithful slave! How do we know we're the faithful slave? Because it was prophesied!
Circular reasoning at its very best. Beyond that, I've never seen a good explanation.
so after the memorial hell http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/249700/1/memorial-hell my wife totally missed the special talk and i only just realized from jwn that she has.
in fact last sunday i took her out to a park and we had nice time in the fresh air enjoying nature.
also she has taken up improving her congnitive skills on luminosity and today said she might actaully go and study some algebra on khan academy which i had suggested instead of spending money on luminosity.
Hell yeah it's a good sign! A Dub rarely hears about what critical thinking is, and would rarely think it is useful to them. Just lay off of doctrinal issues and science altogether for a while.
If she says she feels her mind is turning to mush, that's because it is. I remember exactly the feeling you described earlier. Describing logical fallacies is good, a list is better. There are a few good YouTube videos that actually show them being used. I found that to be the best personally.
It might just be wishful thinking, but if she once again feels intellectually empowered she might even allow herself to see the bullshit in the pages of the WT. if you jump on it too hard, she might see your motives and back off the whole thing. This could be a great opportunity!
when we were jw's pride was usually cast in a bad light, linked with being "haughty" and coming before a "fall" etc.. but taking pride in certain things is actually a very good thing, i am proud of my children, they have grown in to fine adults who everybody talks well of, they had the sense never to be baptised jw's, i am proud of that too.. i am proud of my achieving a full education since leaving, i haven't done a degree course due to lack of funds etc, but i am now very well read.. i am proud that i am now a better human, kinder, more empathetic, less judgemental, contributing to the community, voting, donating blood etc etc.
i am proud to be associated with jwn and with aawa, i am proud to know you all !.
what are you proud of ?
I'm proud to have control of my mind, and my life. I'm proud of my beautiful wife and the life we have together. We have a nice home, we're both gainfully employed in careers we enjoy. Although we're young, our choices are already starting to benefit us greatly. We have our health and a happy marriage. Of these things I am most proud.
She's starting to learn to think for herself and I'm very proud of that. I look forward to taking even more pride in her when she eventually walks away from this cult.
I am also proud to be a part of this big online community which helps thousands of awakening witnesses make their ways out of this religion.
here is an interesting speech by daniel dennett.
i thought it was a balanced and honest talk,.
bringing out both sides of this purposed plausible suggestion.
A happy, full life. A life where we are in full control of our mental faculties, free of myths and dogmas. Free of fear of the supernatural.
As a society, I hope we continue to replace it with advances in science and humanity.
exxon, shell, and canadian pacific railway all had oil spills reported this week.
exxon and shell's oil spills were from ruptured pipelines and canadian pacific had a railcar accident.. the exxon spill flooded streets and the yards of homes outside of little rock arkansas and the shell spill occured outside houston texas near the vince bayou.
residents of the little rock community never knew that high pressure pipelines ran under their homes which is a disturbing fact being discovered more and more.
Great point Marvin. To be honest, we need more pipelines, if anything. And with US and Canada stepping up oil production, we can expect to see just that.
True, it would be better to run underground pipelines away from residential areas. Many lines are laid long before homes are built. Easements for pipelines that stay a distance from residential areas puts them out of sight, but they're still there.
Some like to rant, but the fact is this: we need oil, oil travels through pipelines. Deal with it. If you can find a better way, by all means! Please step forward.
there are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?
i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.
seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?
Differences between JWs in the US and Europe?
A good 100lbs on average I'd say.
saw this on the news.
do you think we'd ever see the same from the gb?.
in any case, i'm not betting any money on it!.
The pope calls for action because it is important for the credibility of the church.
Meanwhile, the WT fights in appeal after appeal because they don't want a hit to their credibility.
Which strikes you as worse? They both claim to abhor child abuse.
